Comments on: Is Drinking Caffeine a Drug Habit? http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit The world's largest database of caffeine amounts, caffeine positives and negatives, energy drink pros, cons, and reviews.. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:53:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: someone http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-106099 someone Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:56:45 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-106099 I agree with some of the points made by Dr. K, but I don't think caffeine is going to kill us immediately. I also don't understand why you are singling out Monster. I don't think Monster is the worst energy drink out there, but everyone is entitled to their opinion... However, I don't think caffeine needs to be avoided completely. Having an occasional Monster is not going to kill us on the spot. Unless you have absolutely no caffeine tolerance, which I don't think any of the readers here have. I agree with some of the points made by Dr. K,
but I don’t think caffeine is going to kill us immediately.
I also don’t understand why you are singling out
Monster. I don’t think Monster is the worst energy
drink out there, but everyone is entitled to their opinion…
However, I don’t think caffeine needs to be avoided
completely. Having an occasional Monster is not going
to kill us on the spot. Unless you have absolutely no
caffeine tolerance, which I don’t think any of the
readers here have.

]]> By: sam http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-93862 sam Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:18:01 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-93862 listen, in response to the kid who is 13. i am to and im 6 foot 1 and have been for a year caffeine dosent stunt your growth and the unsubstantiated data that is going a round is pure bull shit. also as you sit there judging other people and telling them only to have 75 to 100 milligrams a day you only add fuel to this fire of judgment. listen, in response to the kid who is 13. i am to and im 6 foot 1 and have been for a year caffeine dosent stunt your growth and the unsubstantiated data that is going a round is pure bull shit. also as you sit there judging other people and telling them only to have 75 to 100 milligrams a day you only add fuel to this fire of judgment.

]]> By: Dr. K http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-68424 Dr. K Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:16:17 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-68424 Energy drinks like Monster have 160 mg of caffeine or 4 times the caffeine of regular soda and 54 grams of sugar (that's 14 tsp. of sugar) compared to 40 grams of sugar(10 tsp)in Coke. The sole intent of energy drink makers is to addict you 4 times faster than regular soda and make the withdrawal symptoms four times more powerful and debilitating. This enables them to addict you quicker and more forcibly. Yes, Monster energy users, you began to drink Monster with the intent to be free of something and now you are a slave to the product. You are forced or compelled to drink Monster daily or you'll get sick (withdrawal symptoms). What began as a free choice has become servitude. You are no longer your own master, Monster energy subjugates you or masters you. You have lost your freedom and have entered a world of desperate, fearful dependency. The only "Monsters" are the people selling you this useless, highly addictive product that will gradually but inexorably ruin your health. Energy drinks contain sugar and caffeine which raise levels of cortisol(death hormone) and insulin in blood. This rapidly leads to adrenal gland exhaustion and prediabetic hypoglycemia. This creates vicious cycle, since low blood sugar causes fatigue and craving for more simple sugars and caffeine. This increases consumption of energy drinks, increasing addiction and perpetuating vicious cycle. Over time with chronically elevated blood levels of cortisol and insulin, your health will deteriorate. Insulin resistance will develop. Insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome increases the risk of diabetes, heart disease and stroke. Metab olic syndrome manifests as abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, elevated insulin levels, elevated Fasting blood sugar, elevated LDL cholesterol, and low HDL cholesterol and elevated Triglycerides. Metabolic syndrome often progresses to diabetes, heart disease and stroke. Drinking Monster energy began as a wish to be free of something, but has resulted in your becoming a hapless slave to these drinks. The problem is they will ruin your health (insulin resistance and possibly diabetes). While companies like Hansen Natural gets Rich, You get Sick. Do you know they make One Dollar profit on every can sold? When you get sick from energy drinks and you will, don't expect Hansen Natural to pay your medical bills. Hansel Naturaal doesn't give a damn about you, they only care about your money. A recent study with rats showed refined sugar to be 15 times more addictive than cocaine. Even rats that were initially addicted to cocaine quickly switched their preference to sugar, once it was offered as a choice. I would also like to add that both sugar and caffeine cause panic attacks, depression, insomnia and generalized anxiety. Caffeine also reduces GABA levels in the brain. GABA is a neurotransmitter that allows you to feel comfort or a sense of peace when you are stressed. L Taurine, an amino acid present in many energy drinks, causes bizarre behavior in rats including self mutilating behaviors. Energy drinks like Monster have 160 mg of caffeine or 4 times the caffeine of regular soda and 54 grams of sugar (that’s 14 tsp. of sugar) compared to 40 grams of sugar(10 tsp)in Coke. The sole intent of energy drink makers is to addict you 4 times faster than regular soda and make the withdrawal symptoms four times more powerful and debilitating. This enables them to addict you quicker and more forcibly. Yes, Monster energy users, you began to drink Monster with the intent to be free of something and now you are a slave to the product. You are forced or compelled to drink Monster daily or you’ll get sick (withdrawal symptoms). What began as a free choice has become servitude. You are no longer your own master, Monster energy subjugates you or masters you. You have lost your freedom and have entered a world of desperate, fearful dependency. The only “Monsters” are the people selling you this useless, highly addictive product that will gradually but inexorably ruin your health. Energy drinks contain sugar and caffeine which raise levels of cortisol(death hormone) and insulin in blood. This rapidly leads to adrenal gland exhaustion and prediabetic hypoglycemia. This creates vicious cycle, since low blood sugar causes fatigue and craving for more simple sugars and caffeine. This increases consumption of energy drinks, increasing addiction and perpetuating vicious cycle. Over time with chronically elevated blood levels of cortisol and insulin, your health will deteriorate. Insulin resistance will develop. Insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome increases the risk of diabetes, heart disease and stroke. Metab olic syndrome manifests as abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, elevated insulin levels, elevated Fasting blood sugar, elevated LDL cholesterol, and low HDL cholesterol and elevated Triglycerides. Metabolic syndrome often progresses to diabetes, heart disease and stroke. Drinking Monster energy began as a wish to be free of something, but has resulted in your becoming a hapless slave to these drinks. The problem is they will ruin your health (insulin resistance and possibly diabetes). While companies like Hansen Natural gets Rich, You get Sick. Do you know they make One Dollar profit on every can sold? When you get sick from energy drinks and you will, don’t expect Hansen Natural to pay your medical bills. Hansel Naturaal doesn’t give a damn about you, they only care about your money. A recent study with rats showed refined sugar to be 15 times more addictive than cocaine. Even rats that were initially addicted to cocaine quickly switched their preference to sugar, once it was offered as a choice. I would also like to add that both sugar and caffeine cause panic attacks, depression, insomnia and generalized anxiety. Caffeine also reduces GABA levels in the brain. GABA is a neurotransmitter that allows you to feel comfort or a sense of peace when you are stressed. L Taurine, an amino acid present in many energy drinks, causes bizarre behavior in rats including self mutilating behaviors.

]]> By: hungobob http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-53364 hungobob Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:40:23 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-53364 From my experiences with caffeine, i would have to say it is addicting and sometimes potentially deadly... i started drinking caffeine when i was about 8 and by the time i was 15 i was consuming at least two energy drinks per day, one thing led to another and caffeine pills was the next step in my addiction. at the time i couldn't go a day without consuming at least 400 mg of caffeine or i would suffer mind numbing migraines that lasted all day.as my tolerance grew higher i started taking more and more pills and at the peak i was up to 1200 mg per day until i overdosed and had the go to the hospital and get my stomach pumped. so in my opinion don't take pills, their too easy to od on, stick with coffee. it tastes better anyways... From my experiences with caffeine, i would have to say it is addicting and sometimes potentially deadly…
i started drinking caffeine when i was about 8 and by the time i was 15 i was consuming at least two energy drinks per day, one thing led to another and caffeine pills was the next step in my addiction. at the time i couldn’t go a day without consuming at least 400 mg of caffeine or i would suffer mind numbing migraines that lasted all day.as my tolerance grew higher i started taking more and more pills and at the peak i was up to 1200 mg per day until i overdosed and had the go to the hospital and get my stomach pumped. so in my opinion don’t take pills, their too easy to od on, stick with coffee. it tastes better anyways…

]]> By: Nemo http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-50957 Nemo Fri, 18 May 2007 16:30:56 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-50957 While there is a TON of misinformation about drugs, we can be pretty sure that caffeine is one. We as caffeine users would like to differentiate ourselves from amphetamine users; we're both looking for the same thing. While caffeine and amphetamines are vastly different in many ways, as a kid who experimented with prescription amphetamines, I can say without a doubt that the sort of person that likes the caffeine high is also the sort of person that will LOVE the amphetamine high. That said if you like caffeine stay the hell away from amphetamines. You are the sort of person who will love them, and loving amphetamines will not lead you anywhere you want to be ;) The truth about drugs is that the majority of us use them (caffeine, booze, cigarettes, buds, whatever) and some have a much higher potential for destruction, but the use of them all derives from the same drives in all of us. We would like to think that we are not like them. Us caffeine users look down on the amphetamine users because amphetamines really are more dangerous than caffeine. The pot users look down on the drinkers because booze isn't natural and is neuro-toxic. The drinkers look down on the pot smokers because pot's illegal. The heroin users look down on the amphetamine users because amphetamines aren't natural. And the amphetamine users look down on the heroin users because they shoot up. We're all users like we're all human. Except for the Mormons. While there is a TON of misinformation about drugs, we can be pretty sure that caffeine is one. We as caffeine users would like to differentiate ourselves from amphetamine users; we’re both looking for the same thing. While caffeine and amphetamines are vastly different in many ways, as a kid who experimented with prescription amphetamines, I can say without a doubt that the sort of person that likes the caffeine high is also the sort of person that will LOVE the amphetamine high. That said if you like caffeine stay the hell away from amphetamines. You are the sort of person who will love them, and loving amphetamines will not lead you anywhere you want to be ;) The truth about drugs is that the majority of us use them (caffeine, booze, cigarettes, buds, whatever) and some have a much higher potential for destruction, but the use of them all derives from the same drives in all of us. We would like to think that we are not like them. Us caffeine users look down on the amphetamine users because amphetamines really are more dangerous than caffeine. The pot users look down on the drinkers because booze isn’t natural and is neuro-toxic. The drinkers look down on the pot smokers because pot’s illegal. The heroin users look down on the amphetamine users because amphetamines aren’t natural. And the amphetamine users look down on the heroin users because they shoot up. We’re all users like we’re all human. Except for the Mormons.

]]> By: fred http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-49961 fred Sat, 12 May 2007 16:21:09 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-49961 the human body drug interaction with naturally occurring substances as opposed to with chemically isolated natural substances is different, and KarlieMildraed's comments are valid. Usually, it is not any chemical change in the isolated substance itself, but the isolation from other similar compounds that would normally affect the body in concert with the now isolated agent. the human body drug interaction with naturally occurring substances as opposed to with chemically isolated natural substances is different, and KarlieMildraed’s comments are valid. Usually, it is not any chemical change in the isolated substance itself, but the isolation from other similar compounds that would normally affect the body in concert with the now isolated agent.

]]> By: garrett http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-49607 garrett Wed, 09 May 2007 19:42:47 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-49607 Well, I think most people would associate that kind of behavior with experimentation more than addiction. I was thinking mainly about people who may not have a lot of experience with highly concentrated caffeinated products. Believe me dude, I write reviews for Energy Fiend. I know about addiction. I've been forced to bear witness to (and participate in) some pretty epic battles with all manner of substances in my time. As far as insensitivity goes, you may be right, but I think it stems from impatience. The point I was trying to make is that responsible use (i.e., avoiding addiction and dangerous behavior) should be the goal. There are a couple of different schools of thought regarding the whole "addiction=sickness" thing, but I think that may be a different discussion for a different day. Suffice it to say that I don't think any level of addiction is A) insurmountable, or B) a valid excuse for irresponsibiity. Maybe I'll write something else about that later. Overall though, point taken. Some people get addicted to things. Yeah. Also, thanks for the props Brie and Mama. Much appreciated. Well, I think most people would associate that kind of behavior with experimentation more than addiction. I was thinking mainly about people who may not have a lot of experience with highly concentrated caffeinated products.

Believe me dude, I write reviews for Energy Fiend. I know about addiction. I’ve been forced to bear witness to (and participate in) some pretty epic battles with all manner of substances in my time.

As far as insensitivity goes, you may be right, but I think it stems from impatience. The point I was trying to make is that responsible use (i.e., avoiding addiction and dangerous behavior) should be the goal. There are a couple of different schools of thought regarding the whole “addiction=sickness” thing, but I think that may be a different discussion for a different day. Suffice it to say that I don’t think any level of addiction is A) insurmountable, or B) a valid excuse for irresponsibiity. Maybe I’ll write something else about that later.

Overall though, point taken. Some people get addicted to things. Yeah.

Also, thanks for the props Brie and Mama. Much appreciated.

]]> By: Jack http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-49411 Jack Tue, 08 May 2007 16:48:01 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-49411 I agree with a lot of what you're saying and you have a good perspective on caffeine use. However, your comments are insensitive to those with addictions. You clearly have never been addicted to caffeine or anything for that matter. If so, you would know that some people's bodies become much more dependent on caffeine than others and they literally are not able to use it recreationally the way you are. You should understand that the "abusers that perpetuate a lot of the stereotypes" might have a problem that is out of their control and NOT THEIR FAULT. I'm not saying that caffeine should be illegal. I actually side with you on that argument. I'm just asking you to please learn more about and understand "addiction" before you make comments like "Don’t be the person that eats a box of No-Doze. Don’t be the guy who acts a fool in line at Starbucks and, for god’s sake, don’t just grab shit off the shelf and start guzzling blindly." I agree with a lot of what you’re saying and you have a good perspective on caffeine use. However, your comments are insensitive to those with addictions. You clearly have never been addicted to caffeine or anything for that matter. If so, you would know that some people’s bodies become much more dependent on caffeine than others and they literally are not able to use it recreationally the way you are. You should understand that the “abusers that perpetuate a lot of the stereotypes” might have a problem that is out of their control and NOT THEIR FAULT. I’m not saying that caffeine should be illegal. I actually side with you on that argument. I’m just asking you to please learn more about and understand “addiction” before you make comments like “Don’t be the person that eats a box of No-Doze. Don’t be the guy who acts a fool in line at Starbucks and, for god’s sake, don’t just grab shit off the shelf and start guzzling blindly.”

]]> By: MamaJane http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-49278 MamaJane Mon, 07 May 2007 19:39:04 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-49278 Garrett ~ You are a terrific writer! I can barely sit through more than a few sentences of a rant, but yours was insightful, thought-provoking, intelligent, completely amusing, and inspired me to continue my coffee and Mt. Dew habit for the sheer purpose of getting through my day. Because I'm short and thin, it doesn't take much caffeine to get me moving, which is all I need .. get me moving, keep me moving (otherwise you'll find me on the couch watching TLC all day, GASP!). But hey, there was a lot of information here, and I'm starting to think maybe I could safely add one more little jolt of caff and actually DO something besides being an upright zombie! Thanks for the lift to my day! P.S. I feel slightly better about the one can of Mt. Dew I allow my teenagers per day ... what the hey, it won't kill 'em! (But I'm a mean Mommy ... no caffeine for the 6 and 4-year-olds!) Garrett ~ You are a terrific writer! I can barely sit through more than a few sentences of a rant, but yours was insightful, thought-provoking, intelligent, completely amusing, and inspired me to continue my coffee and Mt. Dew habit for the sheer purpose of getting through my day. Because I’m short and thin, it doesn’t take much caffeine to get me moving, which is all I need .. get me moving, keep me moving (otherwise you’ll find me on the couch watching TLC all day, GASP!). But hey, there was a lot of information here, and I’m starting to think maybe I could safely add one more little jolt of caff and actually DO something besides being an upright zombie! Thanks for the lift to my day!
P.S. I feel slightly better about the one can of Mt. Dew I allow my teenagers per day … what the hey, it won’t kill ‘em! (But I’m a mean Mommy … no caffeine for the 6 and 4-year-olds!)

]]> By: KarlieMildraed http://www.energyfiend.com/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit/comment-page-2#comment-49244 KarlieMildraed Mon, 07 May 2007 15:34:26 +0000 http://www.energyfiend.com/2007/04/is-drinking-caffeine-a-drug-habit#comment-49244 Ack people blaming Starbucks for agitated drivers. Slow drivers keep right. Ack people blaming Starbucks for agitated drivers. Slow drivers keep right.

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